WHY Hindu Religion is SANATAN DHARMA - Mohan Gupta

HINDUISM IS REFORM ORIENTED and as a result adopts and adapts to changing circumstances.

THAT IS ONE REASON, WHY WE ARE SANATAN, besides other factors.
Bharat got independence with truncated Bhaarat with many problems

1) Celebration of partition which was anchored by Gandhi, Nehru and Jinnah
2) Merciless killing of Hindus and Sikhs who migrated from Pakistan

3) Non-citizen Hindus of Independent India who migrated from Pakistan
4) An Independence which resulted in Italian virtually ruling the country and a tainted President.
Why don't we Hindus take some blame?
Other religions allow conversion but Hindus do not allow conversion people from other religions into Hinduism. We Hindus hate others and reject the untouchables.
Hinduism --- A very fragmented religion without any definition, leadership and single road (path) to follow purposeless without any force or direction -- a dying or decreasing religion. Simple is that other religions convert and grow, but we are stuck in India that too is shrinking. Punjab grown into a Sikh state, BJP is helping SPGC to destroy every bit of Hindu culture, it is a shame on the national leadership. We should support the people and organizations which promote Hinduism.

Many Hindus blame Hindus. Some of them are outsiders and some are insiders.

People should try to know whether the people who criticize Hinduism are insiders or outsiders.

If you blame Hindus as insider and say "this is wrong with us" and we should reform. Thanks we may accept and may be we will discuss it too, and if agreed we will put our shoulders together to better the situation.
BUT IF YOU SAY THIS IS WRONG WITH YOUR HINDUISM AND ATTACK IT AS AN
OUTSIDER, fie unto you. We will ask who such people are. Are such people Hindus or are having just fake Hindu name? If you are insider then share the blame and let us work together.
THIS WAS VIVEKANANDA's stand.
Leftists and Marxists have used Vivekananda's quotations to lay blame at the doors of Hinduism, BUT AS OUTSIDERS.
We welcome those who may criticize Hinduism but with sympathy and are ready to do their duty to reform constructively. Plus, No system under the son will ever be perfect. THIS IS EARTH not heaven. Hindus have always been reforming throughout history. For example -
Shankara's unification of Shad Darshanas, Krishnas introduction of Bhakti Yoga into Gita, In post Vedic times less emphasis on Yagnya, Gandhi's Harijan movement, SNDT karve's Widow reforms and Women's education, Gnyaneshwara's contribution in interpreting Gita in Marathi in the form of Gnyaneshwari, Shifting of emphasis on Bhakti during Islamic period of torture.
So what do we expect in modern times?
Bring all Hindus under one umbrella and define. Other religions have some provisions to bring the followers on one platform or under one umbrella
Muslims have Mecca and Koran
Christians have Christ, Bible, Pope and Church of England
Sikhs have SPGC and 10th Guru
Buddhist have Buddha and Buddh-Gaya
In a speech once Swami Vivekananda said the Semitic religions put all humanity in a cage with no choice of expression ignoring likings and disliking about individual’s choice about ways of worship and believing or not believing. Hinduism is not a straight jacket religion like Semitic religions. Hinduism is elastic in nature. Hindu religion defies the tyranny of homogeneity like Semitic religion.

Hindu religion is an open system. Hindus have freedom of worship and thoughts. Freedom divides the minds and sometimes even it kills. Anti Hindu people with Hindu name take advantage of freedom of thought created divisions amongst Hindus. Hindu religion is not based on one person and one book. Like Mecca Hindus have many religious centers spread all over Bharat. So Hindus are no less as compared to Semitic religion, Sikhs or Buddhists in having religious books or religious centers.

In the evening of the last 20ty century the idyll of communism was shattered and the Lies were finally laid to rest. The so called “fascist majority” is an invention of professional conscience keepers from the left liberal establishment. Christians and communists talk about angry Gods of Hinduism, after misreading and intentionally twisting Hindu scriptures. But such misquotes of followers of Semitic religion and communist have no effect on Hinduism.

Still at this point Hindus are a confused mass.

Nehru destroyed the new borne Independent Baby India from the very start along with Gandhi. But We Hindus have to take responsibility as well.

Simple fact is that other religions convert and grow, but we are stuck in Bhaarat - India that too is shrinking.
WE HAVE BEEN AWAKENED TO THIS FACT, and now the shrinking is on the decline if not dead.

We have definitely lost in the past. No disagreement.
(Hindi) --->Kintu Har na manana Jivan Hua karata Hai.
In May 2207, RSS ran 46 OTC camps training 25-26000 Volunteers.
All these youths spent their own money and tickets and learned from 5 am to 10 Pm, cleaning their plates, clothes and rest for a period of 25 +/- days at 46 different sites.

THIS HAS PLAYED PART IN REDUCING THE CONVERSION.

Some of our people are doing a great job. A volunteer teacher teaches every evening mostly in a publicly open area, a room, or under a tree or in a temple. THIS HAS PLAYED PART IN REDUCING THE CONVERSION.

But much, much still need to be done. There are not any appreciable pro-Hindu media. There is not any school of journalism where pro-Hindu journalists are prepared.

For stopping in the reduction of Hindu population, Hindus must start reconverting Muslims and Christians to Hinduism.

It will not only increase the number of Hindus, but also reduce the population of Muslims and Christians also.

Hindus must start treating schedule caste and backward caste people as equal. These people must be treated as equal and must not be discriminated due to any reason. Then Semitic people would not be able to convert schedule caste and backward people. The condition and the treatment to schedule and backward people is usually raised in the media of America and other western countries. The condition of schedule and backward must be raised so that this subject must not be raised in the world media.
We did not respect untouchables people in the past.
In the past Hindus did not respect untouchables, but this trend is changing slowly.

Slowly eroding ancient bias

Firms hiring from across Indian spectrum are helping to topple oppressive caste system
Aug 24, 2007 04:30 AM

Emily Wax
Washington Post
http://www.thestar.com/article/249398

PUNE, India–As a Dalit, Pratibha Valmik Kamble is part of the poorest and most ostracized community in this subcontinent's ancient caste system, a group of people so shunned that they are still known as untouchables.

Her mother is a maid, her father a day labourer.

Yet here in this prospering city, Kamble, 24, was recently applying to an Indian firm called Temp Solutions to go to Philadelphia for a well-paid social service job there.

During the interview, she twisted her hands nervously in her lap, knowing that if she landed the position, she would not only make more money than both of her parents combined, she would enhance their social status, and her own.

India has long had an affirmative action program for federal government jobs, setting aside 23 per cent of positions for the most oppressed castes.

Now, activists are campaigning to open the private sector to them as well, whether the employer is Indian or multinational. Many Hindus favour that goal.

So does Temp Solutions co-owner Michael Thevar, himself a member of a low-ranking caste. He gave Kamble the job.

"I'm so proud of you," he told her after delivering the good news. "I know so well how much you struggled. That's why I am that much more impressed."

Kamble's eyes went wet as she straightened her mustard-coloured outfit and smiled, appearing to be almost embarrassed by his praise.

Recruiting drives aimed at hiring members of India 's unprivileged castes, who make up 70 per cent of the population, remain rare in the subcontinent's booming service sector. But as India hurtles into world markets, such hiring has touched off a larger debate over the country's 3,000-year-old caste system.

"Caste should not be globalized, and as India rises economically, that is the real fear," said Thevar.

"I think this is the moment in India for us all to stand up and tell the world that we are capable. There is no longer such a thing as untouchable in the world."

The issue here is complicated by India 's turbulent history of race, class and caste. Centuries-old customs of arranged marriages and inherited professions perpetuate caste divisions, which are further reinforced by some interpretations of Hinduism, India 's dominant religion, which sanctions the caste system.

Independence for Bharat came for followers of Semitic religion and Nehru Family

Koi Chara Nahin Dua Ke Sivay

Koi sunta Nahin Khuda Ke Sivay

Gandhi family is adamant since independence

The strategy of survival of Hinduism is constantly modified according to exigencies of power and the ingenuity of its practitioners.

GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO GOT CHURCH REMOVED AT MEDARAM VILLAGE.

Preaching Christianity close to prominent temples by violating prevalent law.
Comprehensive enquiry needed.--

It has become part of Christian missionary’s work to first start a school by telling
to educate children and then by conducting prayers and converting the school into Church. Earlier, this experiment was tried near well-known Vighneswara temple at Kanipakam in Chittor district. For some time their activities continued. Immediately after this was known to the people, the church which was converted from school had to be closed. Before forgetting that a case was booked against the organizers of this Church, another incident took place in Medaram village of Warangal District.

Medaram village is a well-known place where large religious conglomeration known by
name Sammakka-Saralamma mela takes place once in two years on a grand scale. Lakhs of devotees which includes girijans and all others hailing from Andhra
Pradesh, Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh States participate in the fair. Two years ago, an English medium school by C.S.I. Church organization started close to mela site. The school was subsequently converted into prayer reciting place and later into a church and then conversions started taking place. They created divisions in the local girijans. Local people agitated protesting the conversions. For two months Adivasi Sangh, local leaders and various sections of people have demanded ban on propagation of Christianity and religious conversions. On 24 th July 07, Adivasi employees’s associations, local mandal officials met district collector and submitted representations asking ban on religious conversions and to remove the Church recently built there.

Responding positively to the peoples’ pleas, the collector directed local officials
to submit a report on the activities on propagation of Christianity and on receiving the report instructed the officials to remove the Church. The circle inspector then accordingly asked the C.S.I. Church organizers to remove it. On 30th July 07, C.S.I.Church people themselves dismantled the Church and shifted the articles to Tadvai mandal center. Thus local Church officials had to remove the Church
by themselves.

They are fully aware of the Government G.O., which bans Christian religious propagation close to such prominent temples. Yet such incidents are taking place with continuous attempt to violate the above law. It has to be seen as to what happens at other pilgrim places like Kanipakam, Vijayawada Durga temple and Girijan’s pilgrim’s center Medaram etc. Whose support is forthcoming for such activities of religious propagation is not known and Government should conduct enquiry into it. It is the responsibility of the Government to take precautions to see that such incidents are not repeated and tense situations donot build up. Various Hindu organizations are asking the Government to order thorough enquiry into the whole episode.

             
Samachara Bharati , Andhra Pradesh.
                                     
Hyderabad, Dt.24-8-07.

Havoc caused to Hindus by converted Hindus

Since the advent of Islam, it has been found that a converted Hindus has caused havoc on Hindus rather more than some other Muslims. Who could forget what happened to East Bengal Hindus who, centuries ago, were converted by the Muslim Nawab who was rebuffed when his daughter wanted to marry a young man from a Brahmin family. He wanted his whole family to become Hindu so that his beloved daughter could marry the Brahmin boy, but the priests would not permit that. This hardline resulted in the young man himself converting to Islam and ruthlessly converting the vast Hindu majority.

Read the history of some important converted Hindu persons, who tried their best to destroy Hindu religion after conversion to Islam or at least damaged Hindu religion to a great extent.

Caste is another factor which is used by non-Hindus for getting conversions from Hindu community and also basing, abusing Hindu community. Although these non-Hindu communities may have their own caste and class systems.

In the following article by Premendra Agrawal, read the havoc caused by converted Hindus to Hindu community and Hindu religion.

Inter Caste Marriages vs. Inter Religion or Racial Marriages

As per BBC survey UK 's Indians want to marry with Indians. We should judge the behavior of Hindus who marriage with Non-Hindus or Non-Indians. Heirs of the converted Hindus are more aggressive against Hindus than others. Inter caste marriages are essential to discourage inter religion or inter racial marriages for the sake of Indian culture and unity of India . Is there any need to mention here about Gandhis?

UK 's Asians Reject Mixed Marriage

The survey for the BBC Asian Network by ICM Research found that 44 per cent of Asians would marry only from the same race compared with 9 per cent of white participants.
In the survey, "Asian" refers to people identifying themselves as Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi or Sri Lankan.
When it came to friendships, fewer than a third of Asian participants said "all or most" of their, friends were from the same race, compared with more than two-thirds of white people.
According to the survey, nearly half (44 per cent) of Asians would not date a white person, while more than half of young Asians would not consider dating a black person.
Iqbal's ancestors were Kashmiri BrahminIqbal was born in the Punjab on February 22, 1873. His ancestors, who were Kashmiri Brahmins, had embraced Islam. Some of Iqbal's cousins (name Sapru) were not converted and stayed back in India.
A Q Khan was in Bhopal up to 1952. He became enemy of India to migrate Pak and became Nuke villain. When Mohammed Iqbal was in Hindustan he sango "sare jahan se accha hindustan hamara," When Iqbal went to Pakistan after the Partition then he became fundamentalist. Allama Iqbal himself superseded the famous "Saare Jahan Se Achha" when he wrote "Tarana-e Milli" which says "Muslim hain ham watan hai saara jahan hamara, Chin-o Arab hamara, Hindustan hamara, Teghon ke saye mein ham pal kar jawan hue hain, Khanjar halal ka hai qaumi nishaan hamara"
Sept 25, 2006: A Q Khan Laden LeT Mush - In the Line of Fire
Jinnah himself was of converted Hindu family Jinnah himself was from a family who were converted Hindus. Jinnah's
wife's family (Ruttie) was strong Indian nationalists. They along with Ruttie were from the Parsi community who strongly opposed the idea of partition of India . Jinnah's wife Ruttie passed away long before the partition. They opposed the marriage of Jinnah and Ruttie. Jinnah married his best friends daughter, he used to regularly visit their house to play bridge. He married Ruttie when she was 16 years old and his best friend (Ruttie's father) felt betrayed and never forgave him. Bhutto
Though Jinnah married a Parsi and converted her to Islam, he was upset when Dinah his daughter married an Indian businessman Mr. Wadia. Dinah Wadia is now settled in New York and thinks the partition as not a good idea (maybe because of the present state of Pakistan ).
http://newsanalysisindia.com/115112006.htm

Liaquat Ali Khan's wife was not a Muslim
Her grandfather a Hindu Brahmin (Pants) converted to Christianity. When Rennee Pant married Khan she had to become a Muslim and was loyal to Pakistan while her brothers and other family members stayed back in India .
Aziz Munshi, Mr. Chunrigar's family (belonging to Hindu Gujarati high caste) is still in India .

Benazir Bhutto.s grandmother was a Hindu Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto's mother was a Hindu who was converted to Islam. Benzair Hindu relatives from her paternal grandmother's side are still in India ( Jamnagar ).
Can we know our forefathers? Why Riots and terrorism? Here in India , there is a renowned editor. The name of his grandfather's is Prayagnath. The said editor recently wrote a controversial article to defend the doctors accused in Glasgow Terror Plot.

Isn't it an irony that, which ever inter religion marriage involving Muslim is concerned, 99% of cases, the girl or the boy belonging to other religion (whether Christian/ Hindu) should convert to Islam?

I read an interesting news story of July 8, 07 titled "Woman traces father after 23 years of separation". Then I thought that all of us including Gandhis, Vajpayee, Thackeray, Alwa, Fernadis, Antoney, YSR Rajshekhar, Jogi, Salman Khursheed should find out our forefathers and for this we may take help from Pratibha Patil who has experience
to talk with the spirit. Are we not such Indians whose forefathers were the same? They can get the secrecy of meeting with the spirits from Pratibhaj. Pratibha Patil has met the spirit at Mount Abu . She may be ready to give her secrecy to the leaders of UPA and Left. They can know the religion, nationality and other details of their forefathers. May knowledge of this not the happiest opportunity for every one of us?
http://newsanalysisindia.com/109072007.htm
We should promote inter caste marriage

Rejuct Inter Religion or Racial Marriages
As news reported on Aug 6, 2005, a resident of Baderwa of Nijgarh, Pundit Akhilesh Pandeya is busy convincing local communities to go for intercaste marriage. "Intercaste wedlock produces the best offspring's," he says.

"In a village community like ours, intercaste marriage is the best and most effective solution to the problem of caste discrimination," he says. "Many families have prospered, and their children have turned out intelligent and healthy." Citing from the Mahabharat, he says, "Arjun and Pandu were born out of inter caste wedlock."

He argues that his campaign should come as a relief for lovers belonging to different castes, whose love cannot flower due to the objections of orthodox parents.

Even local priests avoid performing inter caste marriage rituals. However, Pandeya, a modern priest, prefers to perform inter caste marriage ceremonies. He even refuses to accept "fee" for performing the ritual.

* If I am not wrong then 'Panchjanya' Hindi Weekly to encourage ICM, was publishing a matter regularly who adoped ICM. If we give in this way encouragement to ICM then it is good. Lucky is that youth who have arranged marriage with the choice of both.

* In 1918-19 it was a Patidar who introduced an Inter caste Marriage Bill to regularize the practice. The social hypocrisy of asserting the vanity of being of upper class among all Indian groups appears to be for no reason other than self and group vain glory.

* There were Inter caste marriages even in Mahabharat times. Even the SC recently ruled that the caste of the father applies to the children born out of such wedlock and not vice versa. This proves that the caste system will not vanish with inter caste marriages as such.

* Veer Savarkar worked hard to protect minority rights. During the celebration of Hindu festivals, Savarkar visited Muslim and Christian homes to promote good will. He encouraged Inter caste marriage and assisted Dr. Ambedkar in the liberation of the untouchables.
* Dr. Ambedkar wanted to crack foundation of caste
Dr. Ambedkar wanted to crack the foundation of caste but vote bank political conspirators crack the statue of our great leader Ambedkar to crack the unity of Hindus. "You cannot build anything on the foundation of caste. You cannot build up a nation; you cannot build up a morality. Anything you build on the foundation of caste will crack and will never be a whole." Dr. Bhim Rao Ambedkar.

Tags: Inter Caste Inter Racial Marriage BBC Analysisindia UK Asian Iqbal Jinnah Kashmiri Brahman Nuke Villain Parsi Muslim Non Hindu Non Indian Forefathers Riot Terrorism Christian Glasgow Mahabharat Ambedkar Veer Savakar; tag this
By Premendra Agrawal
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Hindus were able to stand against invaders, but the Jaichands did us in.
After more than 1000 years, Muslims at 30% of South Asia , that too with continuous influx of Muslims during Muslim occupation. Christianity has been contained successfully.
But Jaichands are gaining strength. Bigger and lethal Jaichands are in the secular camp. Leftists, Mulayams, Lallos, Arjun Singhs and many others.

We are going through the worst period in the history of Hindus when we are losing Hindus everyday to Islam and Christianity at an alarming rate in Hindusthan and all over the world. We are losing our temples in Hindusthan and land and properties attached to them. We are losing incomes of our temples in Hindusthan and being used for those who are destroying the very roots of Hinduism .This is being done by greedy and power-hungry politicians so unless we also tackle this problem we are not doing justice to ourselves and Hinduism.

Islamic fundamentalism in independent India took roots in Muslim pockets of India with Clandestine infiltration of the Pakistan based terrorists supported by ISI. The continuous terror attacks in the Kashmir valley, in the name of freedom fight, served as fuel for the rise in Islamic fanaticism. The demolition of Babri Masjid in Dec 1992 and the consequent Mumbai riots followed by the serial blasts in 1993 created an obvious division on religious grounds. Since then, Islamic militants with the connivance of local outfits have perpetrated repeated terror attacks on Indian soil. The student Islamic movement of India . (SIMI) became very active fanned by the clerics and trained by the ISI. They spread to all corners of the country and clandestinely operated in different cities, in different names.

Taslima Nasreen attacked in Hyderabad during book launch

Converted Hindus would not even spare who raises an iota of anti-Muslim voice. Even the defenders of free thinkers do not raise their voice?

Taslima booked for promoting communal enmity
http://www.samachar.com/showurl.php?rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Taslima_booked_for_promoting_communal_enmity/rssarticleshow/2273869.cms&news=Taslima%20booked%20for%20promoting%20communal%20enmity&pubDate=Sun+Aug+12+09%3A11%3A19+IST+2007&keyword=toi_home

11 Aug 2007

HYDERABAD: The city police have registered a case against controversial Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen, who was recently attacked by workers of Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) here, for allegedly creating ill-feeling among communities.
The writer has been booked under IPC Section 153 (A) (promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, language etc) on a complaint registered by MIM legislator Akbaruddin Owaisi, police said on Saturday.
In his complaint, Akbaruddin alleged that Kolkata-based Taslima had hurt the sentiments of the community with her writings and speeches against Islam, police said.
Akbaruddin, MIM floor leader in the Andhra Pradesh Assembly, had threatened to kill the exiled author if she visited Hyderabad again.
A group of MIM activists, led by three party MLAs, stormed the Press Club on Thursday and attacked Nasreen who was there to attend a book release function.

When Taslima nasreen was attacked by Muslims themselves, where were the secular like Bakra Dutts, Shekhar Guptas, Rajdeeps, Vir Sanghvis, Shabanas, Javed Akhtars, Sonias, Laloos, Mulayams, when a creative person is being physically assaulted by Muslims? You know who they will blame. It will come down to RSS, VHP, BJP. These secular people would not criticize fundamentalist and terrorist people or parties like Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM)

Converted Hindu is not only one Hindu less but one more enemy of Hindus, one more destroyer of Hindus

UPA government trying to convert Bharat into Christianity

The two and one Rupee coins minted in year 2006 bearing the Christian cross shows what the UPA government is facilitating the conversion of Bharatiya people into Christianity. Cross on the coins is just an example of visible & offensive symptom of the creeping hand of the UPA government and Church in Bharat for converting Bharatiya people into Christianity..

Government TV channels propagate Christianity
*Mumbai (Maharashtra):* With the blessings of secular Central UPA Government, Christian missionaries have started propagation of Christianity making false promises to people that all problems pervading the world like crime, sexuality and poverty would be solved only when the world adopts Christianity. All 6 TV channels including Sahyadri channel and 5 radio-stations are thus propagating Christianity all over the world. *(Hindus must now realize that Christians with their demonic ambition have spread their roots everywhere and should unite to fight against the assault.)*

Everyday at 6.30 a.m., a program called "Enjoy everyday life" is telecast on Sahyadri channel (in Marathi) and 'Zee' Marathi channel from Monday to Saturday. This program is also shown on other Doordarshan and local T.V. channels in 10 different languages at 17 places in India . Besides, it is also broadcast on 23 radio stations. *(On one hand, Pro-Christian and anti-Hindu Congress Government is trying to takeover management of temples, demolish 'Ram-setu', allot land at our places of pilgrimage like Tirupati and on the other hand, it is spreading Christianity. This is a conspiracy hatched by Congress against Hindu Dharma. The only solution is to end political regime of Congress for ever in Bharat. ) *

A lady named Meyer has founded an institution called ' Joyce Meyer Ministry ’ with head quarters at Nanakarmagud in the State of Andhra Pradesh . Outdated Christianity based on cruelty, violence and over sexuality has been discarded by people in the West. Such religion is burgeoning with the blessings of Central UPA Government in our country. It has been learnt that the program has been started with approval of Central UPA Government.

On 16th July, 2007 a program was shown on Sahyadri channel with an aim of bringing back youth from path of over sexuality. It was informed that in USA , 250,000 girls become mothers in adolescence before marriage; 80% of youth spend time in watching sex related programs or websites. Their parents go to church only once or twice in a week. For the same reasons, churches in North America, Europe and Africa are deserted. *(Are Christians responsible to desert churches or Christianity is not able to satisfy their spiritual needs?). *Before the World War II, 65% people had faith in Bible. There were no such problems then. Now only 4 % people read Bible. *(The reason is that Christianity has failed in solving their problems and in offering peace and bliss to people. This led to people turning to worldly happiness and they started searching for bliss in worldly matters.)* It was recommended in the TV program to read a book titled "Mind a battlefield- youth and childhood" by Meyer.

Our youth are future citizens of this country. They should immediately get converted to Christianity to bring them on the right path. *(Why Joyce Meyer is not spreading Christianity in Western countries where people are Christians by birth).* They should be disciplined till the age of 15 years. If this work is undertaken on war footing, in the next 5 years, 100 crores of youth would become Christians, disciples of Jesus. *(Meyer is very systematically trying to mislead youth of this country and spreading Christianity).* We need financial strength to achieve this goal and every entrepreneur and social worker should extend financial support so that new churches can be built to train people. At the end of the program a message is given that they are spreading love of Jesus to everyone so also poor people are given food and clothing and medical service to patients. *(Pro-Christian Government will not do anything for Hindus and take action against Christians. Now Hindus need to become 'Dharma-Yoddha' and fight a war against them).* There is prohibition on Government institutions or institutions run on Government aid to spread any religion as per Indian Constitution. Here 'Sahyadri' channel is propagating Christianity. Devout Hindus are therefore, getting awakened and feel that the ploy of Govt. to spread Christianity trampling provisions of Indian Constitution should be immediately stalled.
Conversion through the backdoor

Christianity of Sonia Gandhi and Bush says only Christ showed the way to heaven.
Islamists also think the same. January 30, 2006: In his video Zawahiri shows the agenda is to convert the world, including the President of the United States, to Islam. The alternative is death. Difference is only that conversion in Christianity by fraud and in Islam is by terror. Jehadis fight directly but Christian Missionaries fight for conversion from back door.

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/article/christians/protests/representation-against-govt-channel-propagation-of-christianity.html

Representation against Govt channel' propagation of Christianity
August 8, 2007

Baramati ( Maharashtra ): Hindu devout ladies submitted a representation to Shri. Samir Shingate, the Tehsildar that the propagation of Christianity going on over the 'Sahyadri' and 'DD' channels run by the secular (?) Congress Government should be immediately stopped.

Shri. Shigate informed that the Government channels can't indulge in propagation of any particular religion. The program is facing opposition even at other places in the State. The ladies went door to door to create awareness among people on the topic and explained to them about the program. They also obtained signatures on the representation.

The ladies, when contacted, informed that they experienced happiness to do something for protection of Dharma and showed their willingness in starting such drive against anti-Superstitions Act.

How come this has not come to the notice of VHP, RSS, BD, and BJP? All regional DDs channels beam this programme and DD reaches the maximum number of households in India . This is a serious matter of the state promoting a particular religion.

Christian missionaries abusing Hindu society"

Some Enemies of India are: NDTV-TIMES NOW-IBN- Kasthuri & Sons, Week magazines, Outlook- Rabid anti Hindu outfits - All Indians and Hindus in Particular should boycott this lot.



Campaign against quota to converted Dalits
Monday August 6 2007 12:15 IST

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEK20070806015332&Page=K&Title=Southern+News+-+Karnataka&Topic=0&



DAVANAGERE: BJPs National Scheduled Caste Morcha plans to start a nationwide signature campaign, to collect ten lakh signatures against the Union Government move to provide Constitutional reservation to converted Christians and Muslims with in the quota for SC community, said Sathyanarayan Jatia, former union minister and national president of BJP SC Morcha here on Sunday.
Addressing media persons here, Jatia set a target of two lakh signatures for the State of Karnataka .
This is to bring awareness among the SCs on the vote bank politics of UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi to woo converted Christians and Muslims from the SC community, providing them free education, social status, financial aid etc. This Abhiyan is to tour the entire nation. We would campaign among the people that conversion to Christianity or Islam is not a panacea for their problems.
Changes cannot be done away with all of a sudden, it can be only a step by step improvement, he said.

Cambodia bans Christian proselytizing:
India’s President for proselytizing
A directive from the Ministry of Cults and Religions of Cambodia is: "Christians are prohibited from visiting people's houses by knocking on the door and waiting to say 'the Lord has arrived'. Why does Indian elect its President to welcome forceful conversion? Did Mahatma Gandhi want forcefully conversion?

As reported by media on July 17-21, 2007 Distribution of religious literature in the Cambodia will be confined to churches, which now must be approved by the ministry before they can be built, the directive said

While the ruling applies to all non-Buddhist groups, it is aimed at curbing Christian evangelical influence in largely Buddhist Cambodia amid reports of children being tricked into converting, officials said.



Churches to set rules on proselytizing

Geneva – Roman Catholic and other Christian churches will start drafting a code of conduct guiding efforts to seek religious converts next year in 2008 according to the World Council of Churches. The council, which groups the main Protestant and Orthodox faiths and the Vatican are aiming to finalize a code for conversion by 2010, the council said in a statement.

The council said a network of evangelical churches in 128 countries, the World Evangelical Alliance , announced at a meeting of theologians and church leaders in France that it supports the effort to set up a code of conduct for conversion.

The issue of how far religious or churches can go to encourage or seek out converts commands considerable disagreements even among the various currents of Christianity.

Controversies in recent years that sparked the initiative include the arrest of a Christian convert from Islam, Adbul Rahman, in Afghanistan in 2006 on charges of apostasy, and the role of evangelical "crusades" in India and Sri Lanka .

Another Christian bullshit of finding out new ways of converting people.

Is caste responsible for conversion of Hindus? - Mohan Gupta

Is Political Cast-ism not dangerous than the Caste-ism in the society?

Mr. Man Mohan Singh recently compared India ’s caste system to South Africa under apartheid. “Unsociability is not just social discrimination,” he said. “It is a blot on humanity.” Dr. Man Mohan Singh feels shame to describe his membership of an untouchable political caste who ruled Bharat being in minority. Is this not black spot on the democracy our glorious ancient Bharatiya Indian system?


The British 'caste system' is more prevalent than the Indian

On July 30, 07 Edward Hamala has analyze the British caste system in a practical way titled “The British ‘Caste System’ is more prevalent than the Indian”, which may be find at: http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/articles.htm



In fact British "caste system" that is even more prevalent, although it is well hidden and "invisible" in the British and some European societies including American, where the nobility still exist, than it is in Bharat today, where all noble titles have been abolished.

The British 'caste system' is more prevalent than the Indian

Is America without caste-ism?
Reality is that in every society has strata and ethnic groups. In modern America, we call these 'demographic segments' -- there are demographic segments such as 'inner city African Americans', 'rural Hispanics', 'suburban whites', 'Asian immigrants', etc. and these are common terms in consumer marketing. Some years before Rajiv Malhotra wrote a fine article on this subject.

The book The Invention of the White Race by Theodore W. Allen gives an interesting insight into how the demographic group we now call’ white' emerged.

Codified or un-codified caste system

A key difference is that in Bharat, caste became explicitly codified, whereas in America social structure by ethnicity or family lineage remains un-codified and subliminal. But what is commonly not pointed out today is that India's smritis (codified rules) pertaining to many topics including caste, were meant to be specific to a given time, place and cultural context and not intended as universal 'commandments' for all people at all times.

Naturally, there were hundreds of smritis made by different people at different times, covering various aspects of social life. Many smritis contradicted.

American caste system is like a kangaroo

The advantage of the un-codified, invisible and often denied phenomenon of the American caste system is that it does not become cast (excuse the pun) in concrete. Rather, the lack of rules make it porous and not impermeable, and open to change over time rather than static. American this system is like a kagaroo, which hides its neck in the sand to think that no one sees it.

Caste is no factor in Conversion

1) We cry about caste because that is the easiest thing to do. - That is the truth.

My question was - how come despite the existence of castes Shivaji managed to turn the tide of constant Hindu defeats establish an Independent, sovereign Hindu kingdom?



(2) Muslims too have their castes and practise unsociability. This confession comes from Dr Ambedkar himself. Please see his book entitled Thoughts on Pakistan published in the 1940s. He quotes from census of Bengal of 1901 and had to confess that Muslims have hierarchy of castes and practise unsociability just as Hindus.

This truth is ignored by Dalits, because it hurts.



(1) What happened in the days of Shivaji? Castes did exist. And yet despite formidable odds he succeeded in overthrowing Muslim rulers and establishing his independent, sovereign Hindu state. His cabinet consisted of 8 ministers, 7 were Brahmins. They became Ministers NOT because they were Brahmins, but because they were warriors and took part in all Shivaji's campaigns.



What happened in the days of Peshwas? Bajirao found that Brahmin knights were not supporting him. So, he set them aside and raised non-Brahmins like Shinde, Holkar, Pawar, and Gaikawad to become his generals. They rose to those positions NOT because they belonged to particular caste, but because they proved to be fighters.

So, why do we cry about the existence of castes?

Muslims too have caste system.

In India Buddhists became Muslims because they just could NOT fight, not because they did not have castes. =

Rationale for conversion of Hindus

By S.P. Attri ( USA )
1. The rationale that Varnashrama of the Hindu is the reason for the conversion of Hindus to Christianity by Christian Missionaries and Islam religion is total-tommyrot. It conceals and trivializes the true intention of the Missionaries, which motivates them to specifically target Hindus for conversion. It covers up the aggressive Ideology of Christianity,

Christianity has nothing but contempt for all Non-Christian Infidels of the world, who are labeled as Heathens / Pagans. Christians are more than 110 % certain that, there is no hope for these Heathens, they are on their way to Hell, and it is the duty of a Christian, to save them from this terrible fate, by converting them to Christianity, no matter what it takes. There is no other way that a Non-Christian Heathen can have access to Heaven.

2. Because of the aggressive nature of Christian Ideology, and the teaching of its Gospel of Hate, the sight of a single Non-Christian Heathen in the world, is a pain in the A** to a Christian. That is why a Christian has an Unlimited-Yearning to convert and conquer the entire Non-Christian world; he wants the whole world to be ruled by Jesus Christ. Like Islam, Christianity is a Replacement Religion; it came to replace all Non-Christian religions. It did not come to make peace with Non-Christian religions, but to eradicate all Non-Christian religions. Because of this cardinal reason, it has never conducted any constructive criticism of any Non-Christian religion, it has always considered itself at war with these Non-Christian religions, and has sought to uproot the culture and traditions of the converted people.
3. Because of this fundamental drive, in Bharat / India the Christians want not only to convert Hindus to become Christians, but to turn the converted Hindus into Collaborators, in demolishing Hinduism in the country of India, by destroying the beliefs of the Hindu in his Hinduism. Thus Christianity's war against the Heathen religions of the world is a sweeping war in totality.
To label Christianity as a problem only, undermines the crookedness of Christianity, and jeopardizes the survival of the Hindus. Christianity, like Islam, is a Monster, a Dragon, bent upon swallowing the entire Non-Christian flock of the world, and must be resolutely confronted. Any Hindu who thinks that he can calm the fury of the Christian-Dragon, or that Christianity can be modified, amended, or altered, belongs on the Funny-Farm, he is the biggest fool in the world. He is totally unable to grasp the fact that Christianity's terrible animus against Non-Christian religions, is in the nature of the beast (the Christian beast).

4. There are three more things about Christianity, that needs to be studied. We must ask the Hindu leaders to come out in open and talk in simple and clear words that this is the last and final battle to save Hindu-India. The BJP MUST HAVE LEARNT THE LESSON IN 2004 DEFEAT. There is no room for second blunder. BJP must declare its Hindu Agenda. BJP must not follow the policy of appeasement of Muslims /Christians.
It must be clear to them that Muslims will not vote them. They are all for Islamic Congress party of Sonia Gandhi or other pro-Muslim parties.
The solution is not easy to come. Even the BJP government dared not introduce a law banning forceful conversions - what did their committed Hindu voters get out of their rule? Nothing. So it is important to create a Hindu vote bank irrespective of these politicians and vote for those who will not at least harm the Hindu interests.



The Phoney-Liberal government of UPI in India.
It is not at all visible to the phoney-liberal politicians, who are wearing blind-folds, that:
To the Moslems, the Non-Moslem Kafirs are the most despised sections of the population. To the Christians, the Non-Christian infidels are headed for hell; they must surely be saved from going to hell, by force, fraud, treachery and torture. Both Islam and Christianity are competitive in this area, and the slaughter of the Hindu, at the hands of both these creeds is sure to follow, in the not too distant future. The non-existential toleration of the Moslem and Christian mind is a sure guarantee of this outcome. Of course, Hindus are tolerant and polite. But we could drown ourselves in politeness. The trend toward damage and destruction of the Hindu, is more likely to persist than reverse, conditions being what they are, and the virtues of the composite culture being painted in the brightest colors, and glowing tributes being paid to it, by the phoney-liberal politicians of India. The negatives of this kind of composite culture are being played down. Hindu power, culture, influence, and demographic strength are being diluted and demolished step by step, city by city, district by district. The Hindu culture which is the native and presidential culture of India, which is a culture of give and take, which is a culture of humanistic concepts, is being replaced by the barbarian ideologies and the Semitic cultures of Islam and Christianity, through the folly of the phoney-liberal politicians of India. But the biggest folly, in this shooting-script, is the disregard of the Hindu, for his own welfare and survival. Though the Intellectual and Financial Resources of the Hindu, are far in excess of corresponding resources of the Moslem and of the Christian, the Hindu is prepared neither mentally nor psychologically, to get his act together, and prepare himself for strong countermeasures. In other words, the Hindu's guns are jammed. There is not much pro-Hindu media in Bharat either.
This jamming suspends all determination and working of the Hindu system, it puts the Hindu in the gun-sights of the vipers of Islam and Christianity, and invites both these sadistic-savages, to take pot-shots at the
Hindu. It is like displaying the red-rag before the bull, and telling him:
Bull: Come and Hit Me.
Savarkar’s Views:

Savarkar once gave an easy definition of HINDU. He said, "anyone who is going to be attacked by Muslims is a Hindu."

Thus, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists and Dalits cannot escape being defined Hindu.

If the Hindus did not have a sense of belonging, how is it that they withstood and survived nine centuries of blood-curdling tyrannical rule and attempts at forceful conversions of the Muslims, and three centuries of rule and cunning allurements to become Christians of the powerful Europeans?

You say Caste is our downfall, but how? There were no castes in Egypt , Syria , Iraq , Iran , Turkey and Afghanistan . How is it they got converted to Islam in no time but the so called caste ridden Hindustan survived and remained Hindu? Here also, where caste bindings had become weak because of the influence of Buddhism, people of Eastern Bihar and East Bengal (present Bangla Desh) became predominantly Muslim while Delhi , U.P., Haryana, Madhya Pradesh etc remained firmly Hindu?

For Stopping Conversion

The only solution, and probably the cheapest and fastest is to create our own Hindu media which will take the so called secular media head on. All these issues of forced conversions, setu samudram are NOT highlighted by the existing media. The anti Hindu media led by Christian fanatics are having a free run.
It is absolutely amazing that a giant organisation like RSS has got only two weekly news papers, ORGANISER & PANCHAJANYA which has got a circulation of few thousands.
Why can't we have media of the size and power of IBN, STAR, Indian Express etc? We are all intelligent people. If VHP can collect 2000 crores to build the ram temple, why can't they collect money to start a 24 hour news channel in India ? Every single news channel is busy spreading lies about Hindus. CNN/IBN & STAR TV are the worst.
The frustration which we are venting out in this forum is fine but we need a BIG voice. Time is fast running out for Hindus.
There are news papers like PIONEER which are on our side. If they are funded properly they can take on the anti Hindu media.
People should talk about learning media skills or least sending their own children to learn journalistic skills Before having Hindu media, Hindus people must first need to learn to acquire the skills by doing courses and other ways of learning media and presentation techniques.